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christoph your talk title is

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why we need the apocalypse now a

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materialist

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investigates reality and changes his

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mind

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um so what what does that even mean i

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think apocalypse like

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you mean like a reset we need the the

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earth needs to be over what what

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what is what is this topic about and

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what do you mean by that title

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yeah it's a obviously it's a it's a bit

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of a play on words i mean if you look at

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the actual literal meaning of apocalypse

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it means to kind of take the lid off

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or unveil essentially and so what i'm

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doing is obviously there's a bit of a

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play on words with the

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the the film title as well but um

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essentially what i'm talking about is

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um is just making people more aware

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of spiritual experiences which means to

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unveil

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experiences

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and and try and and try and you know

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try and make them more mainstream within

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society

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so um yeah i mean that that is

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that's the meaning of apocalypse to

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unveil it so we we take it from

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so i i i mentioned basically i want to

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take it from

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the occult the hidden to the kind of the

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revealed

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and and that's that is what i'm talking

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about so i'm not i'm not talking about

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you know blowing stuff up basically and

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and that's

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it's interesting because culturally

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we're we're in the minority in the west

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where we talk about this as you use the

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term the spirit world right

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things that you can't really um see or

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understand

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um with modern day newtonian science

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most of the world have a relationship

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with this spirit world and so

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that's what you're talking about so it's

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not frowned upon so we can actually

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explore it more

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do you see because you've had your own

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personal experiences

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um how how does this serve us as

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humanity how does how does this serve us

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by

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tapping into this and learning more

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about it then how is this going to as a

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as the expression goes what's in it for

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me why would people want to explore this

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why is this important um that we tap

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into this

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i just i i think that it's

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it is about getting a greater connection

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to to the rest of the world i mean i

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it's about moving away from a kind of

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an individualistic mindset which is the

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i suppose it's you know it's maybe it's

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a a

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result of the kind of the you know the

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capitalist work ethic and

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or the protestant work ethic whatever

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but but um it's

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it's about being trying to find that

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kind of

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interconnectedness again and the reason

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why it's important for me is

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it's to be honest with you because of

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what i've experienced

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it it just feels like it's it's a part

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of nature

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to me it's almost i mean this seems a

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bit of a strange thing to say but

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to me it almost feels as as as normal as

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gravity it's

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i this i always feel this thing around

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me this kind of spirit

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around me um i've never really talked

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about it openly before because it's so

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difficult to talk about this stuff

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with people in general out on the street

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or they'll just look at you in a bit of

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a strange way

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but if you're feeling as though you're

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connected to something bigger

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and that we're all connected to

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something bigger we're perhaps we're all

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part of that

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that that larger you know

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entity that that fills the entire

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universe that

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that can only be a you know a good thing

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and

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about it is is actually for my

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scientific instinct because

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to me it seems like it's something

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that's just there

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and and that and what why don't you know

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why should we all know about this so i

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mean that's

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that's why i'm that's why i'm keen on it

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because you know i've

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i've been trained as a scientist and

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you know but you know the problem i've

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had has been essentially

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trying to trying to assimilate all this

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stuff and

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and and and and and talk about it and i

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think some people when they go through

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these kind of

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experiences we'll have a quick flip and

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they'll they'll just kind of talk about

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it straight away for me it's been a bit

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of a kind of ruling process

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and i just think that if there are other

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people going through a similar

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experience that

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that's going to be helpful hearing

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somebody else having had that experience

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but but also i just think if you know it

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it makes us feel like we're not it's

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going back to the kind of the art of

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exposures going back slightly to the old

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medieval mindset and that we're

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we don't feel like we're alone in the

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universe any anymore you know and and

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i think that's i think that's important

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i think that's especially important at a

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time when

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you know we're we're worried about about

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the future about the future of the

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planet and

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you know i think if we if we

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if we feel like we are part of something

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a lot bigger and that we

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even though for me personally um i i

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feel as though

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the script is written i mean for me

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personally i believe in determinism but

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it doesn't matter whether you believe in

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free will determinism at the end of the

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day i don't know what's going to happen

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to

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like like anybody else

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and and i just feel like if we believe

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that we're all

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part of that script and we can all work

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together

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you know it and it changes that mindset

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from an individual

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individualistic mindset at a time when

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we need to be

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essentially working together to be

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dealing with all the problems that we

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have

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you know environmentally and staying on

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the sustainability front

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hey thank you for uh for sharing your

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thoughts your insight and for

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preparing this lecture we are looking

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forward to hearing this uh

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full lecture um during the 2021 sscpa

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convention online and to be able to

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interact with you during the q a

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again thank you very much christoph